tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-161694830669099204.post4296755753332423271..comments2024-03-17T18:53:56.416-07:00Comments on Cosmic American Blog: Number Eight: Radiohead's OK Computer (1997)yoggothhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00233852251148460524noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-161694830669099204.post-36216737150713058592008-02-04T20:57:00.000-08:002008-02-04T20:57:00.000-08:00But Radiohead didn't start small and doesn't sound...But Radiohead didn't start small and doesn't sound like indie!!!!yoggothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00233852251148460524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-161694830669099204.post-4183726701936104912008-02-04T12:53:00.000-08:002008-02-04T12:53:00.000-08:00Hmm, I suppose you could say there are real indie ...Hmm, I suppose you could say there are real indie bands that are true to the sense of the description, aren't on a major label, small following etc. Then you could say there's this other more mainstream group of bands that utilize the indie sound but are definitely not 'indie'. Bands such as Radiohead, White Stripes, most 'The' bands, etc. Maybe they started out small but at some point they went big, yet they still utilize this indie sound. Does this make any sense?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-161694830669099204.post-24472906065891901712008-02-03T21:10:00.000-08:002008-02-03T21:10:00.000-08:00I guess, but then Radiohead doesn't even sound lik...I guess, but then Radiohead doesn't even sound like indie rock. Are we just using indie as a description of any band that doesn't sound like the stuff played on rock radio stations? <BR/><BR/>If indie is the new alternative who are the bands that you would include in this category?yoggothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00233852251148460524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-161694830669099204.post-71263247273748439212008-02-02T12:12:00.000-08:002008-02-02T12:12:00.000-08:00Have to agree with LE here, I think of indie at th...Have to agree with LE here, I think of indie at this point as being a style rather than some reference to music labels. Indie is the new Alternative.<BR/><BR/>As a person who doesn't really listen to Radiohead I think of them as indie. No videos on MTV, no appearances on TRL? Indie in my book.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-161694830669099204.post-62649070479212466552008-02-01T22:43:00.000-08:002008-02-01T22:43:00.000-08:00Radiohead are indie...because I say so.Radiohead are indie...because I say so.Little Earlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03415022026000282965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-161694830669099204.post-76283667622809169742008-02-01T22:32:00.000-08:002008-02-01T22:32:00.000-08:00The genre known as "indie rock" definitely has exp...The genre known as "indie rock" definitely has expanded over the years but there is not way you could consider Radiohead an Indie band. That's just silly. Radiohead released their first album on a major label and they had a hit single on that album. They then released several other hit albums on a major label. Almost everyone knows who Radiohead are. Under what possible definition of indie rock would they be included?<BR/><BR/>The White Stripes were indie and then signed to a major label. Arcade Fire are a very successful band that are still signed to an independent label. Indie rock can either refer to a band that is signed to an independent label, or one that used to be and still has the sound associated with bands from independent labels. The term may not mean much but it means more than you're letting on.yoggothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00233852251148460524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-161694830669099204.post-79246707801418847142008-02-01T21:25:00.000-08:002008-02-01T21:25:00.000-08:00Well everybody knows contemporary mainstream rock ...Well everybody knows contemporary mainstream rock is shite, so to say anything is better than contemporary mainstream rock is to not say anything at all. And as far as Radiohead not being indie rock, well, no, technically they aren't but as far as America is concerned they basically are, and besides, they are really a part of the whole "indie rock narrative" as it's laid out in places like Pitchfork. Come to think of it, what is "indie rock" anymore? I mean, when the White Stripes and Arcade Fire debut in the Billboard Top Ten, isn't "indie" just a useful stylistic designation rather than a financially meaningful distinction?Little Earlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03415022026000282965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-161694830669099204.post-18082354651826955232008-02-01T21:16:00.000-08:002008-02-01T21:16:00.000-08:00See, now why'd you have to go and say "compared t...See, now why'd you have to go and say "compared to most indie rock today, OK Computer is Sgt. Pepper." OK Computer isn't indie rock and you dislike contemporary mainstream rock as much or more than you dislike contemporary indie rock. Why the hate??yoggothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00233852251148460524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-161694830669099204.post-9054346238092072762008-02-01T18:15:00.000-08:002008-02-01T18:15:00.000-08:00Yes, you're right, OK Computer really is "standard...Yes, you're right, OK Computer really is "standard rock," especially when compared with Radiohead's later material. I wonder why I don't quite like the album as much as I seem to want to. It grew on me to a point, and then stopped growing - while other '90s albums are growing on me still. I guess I just don't relate to Thom Yorke very much, and the whole vibe just leaves me a little bit colder than the other British bands do. I mean, I've seen this album in the top ten of Greatest Albums of <I>All Time</I> lists. I don't think it's quite that good. But hell, compared to most indie rock today, OK Computer is Sgt. Pepper.Little Earlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03415022026000282965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-161694830669099204.post-29881676809592706092008-01-31T22:46:00.000-08:002008-01-31T22:46:00.000-08:00I know that's what everyone says, but I really don...I know that's what everyone says, but I really don't hear that much "breaking down" in OK Computer. Compare it to <I>Hail to the Thief</I> in which every song sounds like it was chopped up to avoid fulfilling critical expectations. If King Crimson or Pink Floyd or The Talking Heads is classic rock how is OK Computer anything other than "the standard rock song"? The standard rock song is a pretty broad category.yoggothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00233852251148460524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-161694830669099204.post-76494474993522121732008-01-31T22:29:00.000-08:002008-01-31T22:29:00.000-08:00This one's up there but, as you know, I'm actually...This one's up there but, as you know, I'm actually a bigger fan of other albums from '90s England. A lot of times Radiohead seemed like they were trying too hard to "break down" the standard rock song, when their own best songs were probably their more classicist tracks. My favorites from this album:<BR/><BR/>Exit Music (From a Film)<BR/>Karma Police<BR/>No Surprises<BR/>Lucky (I keep looking for the "Waters/Gilmour" co-songwriting credit but I have yet to find it in the liner notes)Little Earlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03415022026000282965noreply@blogger.com